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PostPosted: May 8th, 2006, 9:09 am 
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So I woke up in a bad mood today. And I lay in bed and thought about hate (yeah, I'm in a pretty bad mood). Do you know what's really, really not funny about hate? That, apparently, feminists all hate men, and yet all the evidence points to the opposite: men hate feminists. Not only that; men hate women. Men hate me.

1. Men hate me when they rape. I am lucky enough not to have been raped (yet), but I still feel that hate. I feel it when I read that 60, 000 women a year are raped in the UK alone. I feel it when I know that, all around the world, women are being raped right this minute, right this second. I feel it because I know that we are not being raped by crazy psychopaths lying in wait in a dark alley as the media would have as believe, but by normal, ordinary, everyday men, by husbands, ex-husbands, boyfriends, friends, fathers, brothers, bosses, partners, ex partners, soldiers, policemen, the list goes on. Men hate me when they rape.

2. Men hate me when they use porn. They hate me when they come to my sisters being abused and raped. They hate me when they reduce me to two hands and three holes. They hate me when they use porn as a manual for sex, when they equate my worth to my ability to act like a porn star. They hate me when they deny the harm that porn does to women. They hate me when they see the harm and rejoice in it. They hate me when they cause that harm. Men hate me when they use porn.

3. Men hate me when they type 'rape virgens' into google, or 'cut breasts f*ck', or 'three men brutally rape woman'. (Check out the sitemeter posts over at the Den if you really need more evidence).

4. Men hate me when they harrass women in clubs, on the streets, in the park, in bars, on the beach, at the bus stop.They hate me when they leer and make lewd comments and pinch arses and grab breasts and stare down tops and drive by in their cars beeping their horns at any tits and arse they go past and when think they have the f*cking right to tell me to smile.

5. Men hate me when they buy lads mags and calculate how much their girlfriend costs per f*ck.

6. Men hate me when they ask their girlfriends to get a boob job to spice up their sex life.

7. Men hate me when they make malicious, sexist jokes. Men hate me when they laugh at malicious, sexist jokes. You think I don't know that you really mean it?

8. Men hate me when they question women's right to equal pay / to have an abortion / to have sex without getting pregnant / to do anything that they have the right to do.

9. Men hate me when they buy women's bodies.

10. Men hate me when they sell women's bodies.

11. Men hate me when they pay money to control women in a strip club.

12. Men hate me when they write and profit from lyrics like this (Grab your titties for BIG)

13. Men hate me when they laugh at an anti-rape protest.

14. Men hate me when they attempt to justify/ deny /defend any of the above.

And the funniest thing is, I still don't hate men. I still believe that men are not all engrained with natural hate for women, that a lot of it is learnt, and that if something is learnt, it can be unlearnt, or at least we can begin to teach something else.

And I think this is why people like the charming Mr John Turner accuse me, accuse us, of hating men: because they know that we damn well should. But rather than trying to sort themselves the f*ck out so we no longer have any reason to potentially hate them, they lash out with accusations to try and make us feel guilty, to try and make it seem like we are the ones who are acting unfairly, that we are the haters and they are the victims.

Well, I'm sorry, but I'm not going to fall for that. You are the hater; I am the hated. And I'm quite happy to stay here on my moral highground until you accept responsibilty for your hatred and put a stop to it.

EDIT: Just to clarify, when I say I don't hate men, I don't mean that I don't hate rapists and abusers - of course I do - I mean rather that I do not hate men as a genaralized category of people; I do not 'hate all men' in the way the delightful Mr Turner suggests, and I would not ever state that 'I hate men'. At the same time, I am not criticizing anyone who would identify with this statement - as I said, you would be perfectly justified in doing so. There, I think that covers all potential offensive interpretations of the post (excepting, of course, the inevitable trollish interpretations. Bah.)


The cognitive dissonance is just too much! :lol

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is this like... someones response the the article you link to in your sig?

sorry i don't really know what cognitive dissonance means... but a lot of people seem to hate a lot of other people... so it sort of make sense.. >_>

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Since feminists hate men so much, I'd like to see the feminists host a civilization entirely void of men. Much like the legend of the Amazons, the civilization would die out in one generation.

It's amazing how feminists attempt to blame all of the world's problems on men. Did we forget about Queen Mary of England (AKA Bloody Mary)?

There are problems with some men, there are problems with some women. That "cognitive dissonance" statement made me laugh, but it very much relates to the situation we have here, especially with this article writer.

This writer has the "pity me" attitude. Actually, all she's done by accusing men of being haters is to show that she is incapable of avoiding hate herself simply because she feels the need to bring the issue forth in her article. Basically, she hates herself and wishes to pass the blame on to other people.

(Kind of like the oddball joke. "Oh no, I'm not the oddball in the family, all of my other siblings are!")

And she used the term "moral highground." Big mistake. She just placed women on a level above men by accusing men as being haters and herself as being right. Sorry, but last time I checked, the feminists were opressing themselves. Ask Condoleezza Rice if she feels opressed in her high position of power.

The only problem with the feminists believing themselves to hated is because they hate themselves and wish to be made otherwise - and that's a psychological problem incurable by reality except by submission to the fact that men and women are equal, and that hating men is only a reflection on hating one's self.

It's sad that so many feminists have an axe to grind, but they have their equal rights - they now just want to establish themselves above men (remember the distinction I made in a previous post somewhere between the old style feminists and the new style feminism). That won't happen.


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(Kind of like the oddball joke. "Oh no, I'm not the oddball in the family, all of my other siblings are!")


heh, thats a pretty good joke ^.^

I saw this movie once where all the men in the world died or something... or they killed them.. but i think they died.. but then this civilization of women had enough sperm stored up to last for a long time (o.0) but there were like four men around the world cryofrozen or whatever and they got brought bad to life to see if they could reintegrate men into the society and then guy ended up making havoc.. or all four of them did.. but the movie only followed the story of one, and people died and so in the end they froze him again.. or killed him.. or something.. and there was like this "tearjerker" twist of the old lady had been the guys girlfriend before he was frozen and stuff.

but yeah. it was prolly a feminist movie or something. it was pretty amazonish.
OH or like SuperWoman came from a colony of only women and she could stop bullets and had an invisible plane. Maybe she was a feminist? or that whole show was a feminist movement?

hmm. never thought of that. Nifty.

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So I woke up in a bad mood today. And I lay in bed and thought about hate (yeah, I'm in a pretty bad mood).


Heh. Sounds funny. I guess the author of the article really likes to dwell on herself. I also noticed that when she mentioned how "men hate women" when they google, apparently she forgot about the fact that the women are the ones taking their tops off for those pictures. And then she deduces it to hate? Funny.


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i say we shud all turn gay.

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Hrm... I just like women too much.


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i say we shud all turn gay.


I say that you should turn gay and then all the guys watch.

Oh, and very spot-on NWS.

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I say that you should turn gay and then all the guys watch.


Sounds great. :D


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