I just thought of this since Dray has been affected by this... well.. ridiculousness recently.

I think it might be a good idea to kind of make a list of companies, both X List(and Awesome List!) of video game companies on Youtube. I believe Syn has dealt with a copyright claim for a Tales game as well, and I can't remember if anyone else had problems. This is mainly a problem for younger Youtube accounts; however, it's apparently the rule that if you get a ton of copyright content ID blocks, Youtube takes away upload size for 6 months anyways. Which could seriously detriment some of the vets' Youtube channels for quite a while. Either vet or newbie, 3 copyright strikes(much more severe than a content ID match), and your Youtube channel is closed for good.

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A X-List company is one that has been known to have filed a Content ID Claim(more minor), or had Youtube remove a video or LP in it's entirety, usually as a result of a Copyright Strike(1 strike results in a 6-month time limit on videos regardless of current account status). A Awesome List company has evidenced that they promote people sharing their games and encouraging to do so on Youtube.

Thus far, it seems that:

X-List
Namco Bandai - Content ID Claim - (The only times I've heard of this are with Tales games. There goes my idea to LP Tales of Destiny.)
Sega of Japan - Copyright Strike- (May change on actual PSO2 launch, who knows. Accounted for by me.)
Eidos Montreal - Copyright Strike- (They claim they don't want spoilers posted to encourage people to buy their games, or some such statement.)

Awesome List
Enmasse Entertainment(Tera Online company, openly promoting closed beta footage and eventually game footage).

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I'll try to keep the list edited and current. If you folks run into problems(or a company that promotes LPs), just make a quick post and let me know.

There's also a problem with LPing or posting footage of more recent games with spam/fraudulent foreign companies attempting to claim copyright violations on the more modern videos since there's usually more of those to pick on(especially Battlefield, CoD, etc videos) to gain ad revenue somehow, apparently. They usually have a generic name like Digital Media Front or something similar. If anyone ever needed more evidence to how ridiculously Youtube bows down to this crap, that's the proof.

One more quick thing(and mainly for newbies again like me, since I never looked at this part of Youtube considering I never uploaded videos until recently):

Your infraction type stuff can be viewed by hitting Settings in the top right corner of Youtube. You then go to "Manage Account", and the problem stuff is under "Account Status".

Copyright Strikes are the serious deal. If you get even one, you lose uploading privileges(penalized and reduced back to 15 minute limit) for 6 months. Chances are, if you get one of these- you'll know. The company usually deletes the "offending" video in its entirety. Three Copyright Strikes mean your Youtube channel is gone. After supposedly 6 months of "good user behavior" and completing an insipid copyright school quiz(always pick the answer that screws over users the most!), you might get your strike removed. It is supposed to be removed actually, but some people have had them drop the ball on that one, too.

If you get a Content ID Claim, you at least have more of a chance to fix it. These also appear to be much more loosey goosey and get spammed by non-legit companies at times. Try to double-check and see if there's actually a legit company making one of these. This can also, for repeated infractions, result in a re-acquisition of a upload time limit; however, these can usually be resolved much more quickly by FIRST making a dispute on Youtube, and then removing the video in question if needed. But like I said, it seems from others' experiences that a lot more spam companies latch on to this to make false claims.

Content ID is usually completely automated. It looks for snippets of songs and visual clips in videos. It can detect anything pretty much- quality differences, whether or not a short clip is used(supposedly), etc. Companies submit footage and songs that create an ID for a system that is automated. This is usually the sort of thing you get hit with if, say, however RIDICULOUS it is- if there's a party video for example, and a copyrighted song that is in the Content ID database plays... guess what, if the automated system picks it up one day, you have a Content ID claim.

Now, Content ID Claims... well, er- CLAIM to not all be bad. The owner of the content can choose to either A: Leave the video up, B: Leave the video up and put their own ads on it to make a profit from it, or, C: Block the video.

Here's Youtube's video on Content ID for reference:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9g2U12SsRns

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I'd actually be getting started on that right now if not for lack of sleep.

wow, that could be a good system if they did it responsibly. so far it looks like its being abused and doesnt look like there is any policing going on.

Well, so to does the idea we had to LP that game once as well, Lantis.


Thanks, Fay, for all of the heads up.

I think we should try it anyways, man. The claim that Namco made wasn't one that got your account blocked for half a year. That and Destiny is a really old game... so who knows.

To Karr, yeah, I think their idea was something like "We can have people use copyrighted material and then have the companies whining come in and make some money from this."

Instead, the spam companies attempt to claim content ID to put ads on property they don't own(and that Youtube is being lax on), and even legit copyright owners are choosing "Nah, I don't want the money BLOCK THE VIDEO think of the CHILDREN!" like for the owners of Deus Ex. I firmly believe though, that if your game is contingent on someone not watching a LP... well, you're screwed anyways. A good LP encourages people to buy games- at least, that's why I bought Catherine. The ad campaign for that game was really... enh, but this one LP was amazing. Deux Ex, however- they wouldn't even let people make unboxing/review videos. A bit shameful, to say the least- especially when a lot of people had good things to say on it.

Speaking of which, the LPers that do it for free seem to get punished way more than those who are partners, obviously. It's a flawed system essentially. Because they profit Youtube more, the rules are bent quite a bit for them. And yet, now, it is nigh impossible to get to that obviously without millions of views. But it's pretty clear where Youtube doesn't mind breaking the rules for some cash. LPers that don't want money(and never do) just seem to get burned more. It's a small beacon of hope that there are a couple of channels with a lot of recent content without partner status that seem to do okay as well.

Which Tales game are you guys planning on? Tales of Destiny actually has co-op very early in the game from the channeling type item in a cave. Whichever character you equip it on, player two controls them in battle. It's awesome. Tales of Destiny is one of those games that definitely shaped my appreciation of RPGs. Rutee Katrea, and Atwight especially. Amazing story and battle system. FA-SU-TO EH-DO!(Also a sidenote, kinda cool, the translation project for the ACTUAL ToD 2, the sequel to this game on the PS2 just started back up again a couple months ago.)

I'm personally focusing on doing obscure games until I get on my Youtube feet, so to say. BOF3 isn't too too obscure, but I'm finding some older titles I've never tried and have been screening them mediumcore. I've found one I like(need to edit the video today), and I now always Google for the title of the game and copyright strikes. That, and I check the companies' track records with this stuff, and how old the game is. Hopefully, I can dodge this junk until I get a more cemented Youtube account.

i dont get companies these days, its all about control for them. they dont want your downloading or watching anything for free yet your able to buy other peoples copies of games and from used games stores where the developers get zero money. i dont think movies should be up on youtube, and i think music videos should be uploaded by studios, but i think lp should be left alone. everything today is about money and control, people just dont see value beyond those two things.