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PostPosted: September 1st, 2010, 3:35 pm 
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This story just broke out maybe 15 minutes ago.

Some guy has taken hostages at Discovery Channel HQ and stuff.

His site has a list of demands, it seems:

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The Discovery Channel MUST broadcast to the world their commitment to save the planet and to do the following IMMEDIATELY:

1. The Discovery Channel and it's affiliate channels MUST have daily television programs at prime time slots based on Daniel Quinn's "My Ishmael" pages 207-212 where solutions to save the planet would be done in the same way as the Industrial Revolution was done, by people building on each other's inventive ideas. Focus must be given on how people can live WITHOUT giving birth to more filthy human children since those new additions continue pollution and are pollution. A game show format contest would be in order. Perhaps also forums of leading scientists who understand and agree with the Malthus-Darwin science and the problem of human overpopulation. Do both. Do all until something WORKS and the natural world starts improving and human civilization building STOPS and is reversed! MAKE IT INTERESTING SO PEOPLE WATCH AND APPLY SOLUTIONS!!!!

2. All programs on Discovery Health-TLC must stop encouraging the birth of any more parasitic human infants and the false heroics behind those actions. In those programs' places, programs encouraging human sterilization and infertility must be pushed. All former pro-birth programs must now push in the direction of stopping human birth, not encouraging it.

3. All programs promoting War and the technology behind those must cease. There is no sense in advertising weapons of mass-destruction anymore. Instead, talk about ways to disassemble civilization and concentrate the message in finding SOLUTIONS to solving global military mechanized conflict. Again, solutions solutions instead of just repeating the same old wars with newer weapons. Also, keep out the fraudulent peace movements. They are liars and fakes and had no real intention of ending the wars. ALL OF THEM ARE FAKE! On one hand, they claim they want the wars to end, on the other, they are demanding the human population increase. World War II had 2 Billion humans and after that war, the people decided that tripling the population would assure peace. WTF??? STUPIDITY! MORE HUMANS EQUALS MORE WAR!

4. Civilization must be exposed for the filth it is. That, and all its disgusting religious-cultural roots and greed. Broadcast this message until the pollution in the planet is reversed and the human population goes down! This is your obligation. If you think it isn't, then get hell off the planet! Breathe Oil! It is the moral obligation of everyone living otherwise what good are they??

5. Immigration: Programs must be developed to find solutions to stopping ALL immigration pollution and the anchor baby filth that follows that. Find solutions to stopping it. Call for people in the world to develop solutions to stop it completely and permanently. Find solutions FOR these countries so they stop sending their breeding populations to the US and the world to seek jobs and therefore breed more unwanted pollution babies. FIND SOLUTIONS FOR THEM TO STOP THEIR HUMAN GROWTH AND THE EXPORTATION OF THAT DISGUSTING FILTH! (The first world is feeding the population growth of the Third World and those human families are going to where the food is! They must stop procreating new humans looking for nonexistant jobs!)

6. Find solutions for Global Warming, Automotive pollution, International Trade, factory pollution, and the whole blasted human economy. Find ways so that people don't build more housing pollution which destroys the environment to make way for more human filth! Find solutions so that people stop breeding as well as stopping using Oil in order to REVERSE Global warming and the destruction of the planet!

7. Develop shows that mention the Malthusian sciences about how food production leads to the overpopulation of the Human race. Talk about Evolution. Talk about Malthus and Darwin until it sinks into the stupid people's brains until they get it!!

8. Saving the Planet means saving what's left of the non-human Wildlife by decreasing the Human population. That means stopping the human race from breeding any more disgusting human babies! You're the media, you can reach enough people. It's your resposibility because you reach so many minds!!!

9. Develop shows that will correct and dismantle the dangerous US world economy. Find solutions for their disasterous Ponzi-Casino economy before they take the world to another nuclear war.

10. Stop all shows glorifying human birthing on all your channels and on TLC. Stop Future Weapons shows or replace the dialogue condemning the people behind these developments so that the shows become exposes rather than advertisements of Arms sales and development!

11. You're also going to find solutions for unemployment and housing. All these unemployed people makes me think the US is headed toward more war.

Humans are the most destructive, filthy, pollutive creatures around and are wrecking what's left of the planet with their false morals and breeding culture.

For every human born, ACRES of wildlife forests must be turned into farmland in order to feed that new addition over the course of 60 to 100 YEARS of that new human's lifespan! THIS IS AT THE EXPENSE OF THE FOREST CREATURES!!!! All human procreation and farming must cease!

It is the responsiblity of everyone to preserve the planet they live on by not breeding any more children who will continue their filthy practices. Children represent FUTURE catastrophic pollution whereas their parents are current pollution. NO MORE BABIES! Population growth is a real crisis. Even one child born in the US will use 30 to a thousand times more resources than a Third World child. It's like a couple are having 30 babies even though it's just one! If the US goes in this direction maybe other countries will too!

Also, war must be halted. Not because it's morally wrong, but because of the catastrophic environmental damage modern weapons cause to other creatures. FIND SOLUTIONS JUST LIKE THE BOOK SAYS! Humans are supposed to be inventive. INVENT, DAMN YOU!!

The world needs TV shows that DEVELOP solutions to the problems that humans are causing, not stupify the people into destroying the world. Not encouraging them to breed more environmentally harmful humans.

Saving the environment and the remaning species diversity of the planet is now your mindset. Nothing is more important than saving them. The Lions, Tigers, Giraffes, Elephants, Froggies, Turtles, Apes, Raccoons, Beetles, Ants, Sharks, Bears, and, of course, the Squirrels.

The humans? The planet does not need humans.

You MUST KNOW the human population is behind all the pollution and problems in the world, and YET you encourage the exact opposite instead of discouraging human growth and procreation. Surely you MUST ALREADY KNOW this!

I want Discovery Communications to broadcast on their channels to the world their new program lineup and I want proof they are doing so. I want the new shows started by asking the public for inventive solution ideas to save the planet and the remaining wildlife on it.

These are the demands and sayings of Lee.

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did they kill this filthy parasitic human? what a piece of trash.

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EDIT: Just watched the local news. Guy was killed.

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Sounds like someone took the Ishmael series a bit too serious and decided to try to provoke a response through violence.

Though you might not agree with the author (Daniel Quinn, not the crazy guy taking over Discovery) I think everyone should read Ishmael (the other books supplement it's main argument). It's a good look at the destruction our society is causing to the planet, most of it due to our out of control population growth. I think whether you agree with him or not depends a lot on your view of evolution, and how you define evolutionarily stable.

I don't really agree with the wording of his points, though I think the essence of some of them are valid. Our population is doubling at an ever increasing rate and has been for a while. The theory proposed is that for any given specie it will continue to grow as long as their is excess food to go around. So as long as we continue to develop ways to produce more and more food, our population will continue to grow at an increasing rate, while more than likely putting a large tax on the environment (even as much of the population goes starving because all our food is under lock and key for the most part). At our current rate we will likely hit 12 billion by 2020, then 24 billion by 2040ish. The question is once we hit the breaking point of population, what will happen. Will the system (earth) gracefully correct itself by reducing population to a sustainable level, or do we spiral in a massively increasing population decline as most of the land is no longer able to support food production and severe famine affects everyone, and essentially wipe ourselves out.

I think a lot of it boils down to do you think that the environment will be able to correct everything, so why should we care and work to do something about it now, or would it be more prudent to try to address these problems head on now, at the loss of many of our current conveniences. The book mentions that as a specie we had very modest population growth until about 10000 years ago when we developed what he refers to as totalitarian agriculture. Then as we started producing massive food surpluses and storing them, our population started it's current accelerated growth, doubling in less and less time. Of course a lot of this deals with prehistory, which unfortunately we can only conjecture about. He mentions a study with rat populations in one of the books, where if the food was controlled the population leveled out, but if it was increased each time the population increased, the population continued to increase (though I haven't found this particular experiment anywhere else, not that I've looked).

Either way at some point we're going to have to face the problem of overpopulation (whether it's at 6, 12, 24, 48, or 96 billion), whether it will lead to the ultimate demise of our species, or just a massive decline back to sustainable levels is yet to be seen. Essentially the Matrix was right, we are a virus, continuously finding a way to multiply at all costs : ).

The Discovery lineup is certainly questionable at best now. Personally I think our current massive population growth is highly detrimental and should be controlled, but how is certainly the question, why should be pretty obvious at this point. We have proven highly efficient at eradicating other species from existence (whether that's in sync with evolution, who knows).

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EDIT: Also I don't understand how he's a parasitic human, other than being a member of our current society. We're the ones who continuously take from the environment while giving nothing of real value back (we don't even really feed the decomposers since we bury ourselves in thick boxes). He is fighting against our parasitic nature (in a misguided way yes). So filthy, probably, parasitic, not so much.

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Stupid pollution babies... THEY RUIN EVERYTHING!!!

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