I'm really liking the looks of this game. I think I'll get it next.

I might actually want to play it.

I don't know. It looks good and I like the switch from 3rd person to 1st person as it seems to blend both Metroid gameplay styles but I didn't see any first person action while moving forward or backward. It was all stationary. That would be essential otherwise it would just be a gimmick selling point.

You cannot move while in first person view.

immobility isnt a "gimmick selling point".

it's to let you get a better view of your surroundings (and even change directions), while keeping it a more traditional gameplay style.

I bet you a lot of people will assume it has first person mobility and while it would help in an adventure gameplay sense (i.e. explore the environment to find the right path) the other third person games did just fine without it. It would probably get frustrating that you can't move the same way Metroid Prime 1 and 2 were frustrating that you couldn't look independent of motion. So to me, it is mostly a gimmick.

the other third person games couldnt do it because they were 2D games.

you're complaining because they're adding a new gameplay element rather than sticking to the same thing over and over. a gameplay element that enhances the theme of exploration the series is loved for, while keeping it traditional and side-scrolling.

why.

Because it seems like rather than be a true synthesis it will be a great 3-D side scroller, with beautiful fast action and great presentation and then oh wait...we need to stop, look around for glowing objects (possibly with slow panning if like Metroid Prime) and then once we find the direction good luck staying spatially oriented and then back to the great 3D side scrolling action.

Personally, the jump from 2D to 3D scroller seems very well done. The mediocre first person stuff (and yes it is mediocre because you won't be able to move in first person while exploring, move in first person while shooting, and it seems tacked on unnecessarily with regard to completing objectives) seems unnecessary at this point. At the very least if the transition from side scroller to first person is seemless then I can see it as being a nice little diversion to break up the action every now and then but if you have to keep going back and forth in between the two on any regular basis, then ALLOW MOVEMENT in first person! Othewise they are ruining their 3D side scrolling pace and action.

EDIT: And they would be ruining this side scroller transition all for the sake of making it Wii friendly (like using the wii mote as her gun albiet in limited situations) and also to remind you of their first person franchising as well (like the Metroid Prime games). That is why it seems gimmicky to me.

I'm actually more interested in this game than on the Prime series. I don't care if you couldn't move in first person because I didn't exactly cared enough about Metroid Prime so... yeah, I do want to play this one.

You ever play the first three Metal Gear Solid games? I'll assume you havent because of this argument you're making.

Um, did those games come out in 2010? Did those games have predecessors in their own series where you COULD move and shoot in first person?

Don't feed the troll, Valk. Kthxbai.

Don't start anything yourself. No one asked you to comment about our conversation here. Check yourself before mischaracterizing me or this discussion.

Mischaracterizing you? Do you have any idea how often you go on spiels like this?

Anyway, I'd like to also point out Super Mario 64. 2D platformer gone 3D, and it has a feature where you could zoom in (albeit it wasn't 1st-person) and look around. This did become a gameplay mechanic at a couple points (entering the Red Switch area, for one).

Or what about the Zelda games? 2D overhead to 3D world, and there were a lot of points where you stood still and aimed your weapon or whatever, just like it seems to be the case with Metroid: Other M.

Banjo-Tooie. Go into a first-person view where you can't move, aim and shoot eggs at targets.

Seriously, it's not an unneccessary gameplay gimmick if it's already been done for years. Sure, they could allow movement in the first-person view like the Metroid Prime series, but they're not trying to create another Metroid Prime, they're trying to create a brand new entry in the platformer series, just like they did with Super Mario, Zelda, and Sonic. Basically, they're doing what they would've done had they tried making a new Metroid for the N64, and I welcome this.

BUT IT'S 2010!

Don't feed the troll, Dray. Kthxbai.

Leaving them alone makes them go away quicker.

I love how you seem to have some sort of vendetta against Bo, Lantis. What's wrong with a guy who argues his point?

I wish it was just me, but so far you are the only person here at the mag that is seemingly sticking up for him. There comes a point where arguing is tiring... and that's absolutely 100% of his posts. And some (read: most) of us are kind of getting a little tired of it.

And with that, get the topic back on track or it gets locked. If anyone has any problems, take it to PMs.

@Draygone
The problem with this game specifically as opposed to all the others mentioned previously in this topic is that like it or not the first person view looks just like a Metroid Prime game, but it won't play like it so maybe it shouldn't be misleading but I think it will be. And just as a hunch, I think the creators actually want you to think Metroid Prime when you are in first person. So in that sense I think it is a gimmick (relying on association with a game the caliber of the Metroid Prime games) without completely delivering (by limiting all first person action to stationary unlike the Metroid Prime games).

Well how would you recommend they make the first-person view look, instead?

What I am ultimately saying is that it doesn't need a first person view. The game as just a 3D side scroller looks fantastic enough. I never played the original 2D side scrollers but I did play the Metroid Prime games. If I were coming from only the side scroll genre then you could argue it either way. You could say that the transition to 3D was enough to make the game interesting, new, and worthwhile without needing to slow the pace for looking around in first person. You could also say to the contrary that looking around in first person adds even more layers and welcome to the experience even if you can't move in first person. But if you are coming to it having enjoyed the Metroid Prime games as I did, it seems like it will frustrate you that you can't move in first person so rather then have such a limited first person experience, I would rather just treat it as exclusively a side scroller, a fast beautiful one at that and never be in a mode to be reminded of it at times as a limited pseduo Metroid Prime experience.

Here is the perfect example. I love the Halo games which are all first person shooters where you are free to move, look, and battle in first person. Now Halo Wars comes out which is a Real Time Strategy game and gives you a bird's eye view of all the units, vehicles, etc. of the rival armys you find in the world of the Halo games. It is never intended to be a first person shooter. You are not supposed to think about it that way when you are playing and therefore it never takes you to the level of an individual in first person and that's fine. Now I think it would be awesome if in some occasional instances it did allow you to do that where maybe you needed in a given task to fight in first person shooter mode just like in the Halo games to secure some small advantage. BUT it would be immensely frustrating if when you switch to that mode if you all you did was shoot and couldn't move. It actually would be so bad as to be detrimental to the experience. But if the previews showed you switch and start shooting I bet you a lot of people would assume that you could play in first person mode just like the Halo shooters and I bet you that is what people will think of this game. If Halo did that I would say it was just as much an unnecessary and possibly detrimental gimmick. But if either game commited to moments exactly like the originals, if this game gave you full Metroid Prime mode on occasion I would be all for it. It would be a true synthesis.

Again if you aren't coming to it having played Metroid Primes it might not be an issue. But if you are as I would be I think it would be a frustration and if you were further unaware that you couldn't move in first person mode when you bought it, I think it would be a dissapointment.