@edit edit - naw i kind of used it wrong. people laugh and tell me i'm losing the plot when i get confused and totally have no idea what they're talking about. so i used it like that.

@email - i was being absure, obv. litty_klj@hotmail.com ^^

@edit - communiwhat?

@ice cream - it's nice, as well as this thread. unless you Really need a 'to' .. then it is nice to eat. but that's kind of obvious as well.

Ice cream is delicious.

what does absure mean?

we could debate that. i don't even remember what word i was going for .... o___o absurd. thats it. thanks gnasher you're a genius.

and ice cream is delicious.

Stythe has a good point. I should have replied to Sarah's Knight's question in this topic but I didn't think to. So yeah, that response belongs here. But also so did Stythe's response and that is exactly why I created this topic. To address mod abuses. He thought of this post why making his response (he mentioned it in his post) yet he placed his post off topic in my topic about cheating. So he gets to have the last word, and a kind of bullying one at that, and then tell me to put my response here so that he will ignore it.

Not quite the temperament for a mod job.

And I don't know if he has the "credentials" to talk about anarchy anymore than I do so unless he provides content, I remain unpersuaded to abandon my position on anarchy.

He never told you to abandon it, you noodling pipsqueak.
He told you to shut up.
You are perfectly free to keep your opinion.

I'm not chastising you, here, but rather appealing to your greater senses.
Whatever righteousness in you which gets so inflamed as to rail against these 'mod abuses' should pipe down and consider the absolute ridiculousness of itself - idealize/realize your personal vision of the just and fair utopia elsewhere.

As for mod intervention, that's what mod's are for.
There is no reason for a moderator to come to another thread and whinge about misconduct.
That would be a world in which moderators were equal to regular members, thus obviating the need for distinction.

As for his temperament, it's lone.
If you don't like lone being a mod, file a formal complaint.
But you might want to keep in mind, before you do, that the Mag makes no pretense of being egalitarian.
It survives because it's a group of people with a common bond, but it never told you that it would please you.

Unless, of course, the Mag has changed policy here, in which case I Demand that Ixzy come spank me.

Actually. I demand that anyway.
Ixzy-poo?

I never said he did you noodling pipsqueak. I volunteer that of my own expression. By the way, why are we calling each other noodling pipsqueaks. Is there some merit to that?

I find your comments that I "should" do anything necessarily, to be unpersuasive. If I believe in "shoulds" at all it is according to a consistent mindset. And you seem to be speaking for your mindset not mine so I find your comments that I should realize the ridiculousness of the righteouness that gets me so "inflamed" to be irrelevant. As to the rational merit of those comments, I find that there is no reason for me to necessarily go elsewhere to try to reach my visions. If anything that is just your preference. I am not bound by that.

However, I never said that I wanted a just and fair utopia. You are projecting that on me. I simply want fairer communication and behavior. It doesn't have to reach utopian levels. Well at least my idea of utopia is a type of perfection, so you seem to be exaggerating for effect or possibly misunderstanding my intentions.

My problem with Stythe's comments to me were that they were not done via a PM so he could have avoided going off topic which is what he was criticizing others of doing. If it is so bad to go off topic (such that he would chime in) then why would he GO OFF TOPIC to do it. He could have easily sent PMs to the necessary parties.

Much worse was his temperament. There is no call for that. If he is continued to be allow to express himself that way to other Magonians, especially as a moderator then so be it. Magonians need not be required to please me. But I will continue to point it out. I need not be required to please you or him. All I as a

I have no interest in filing a formal complaint. If I choose to I will and if I do not choose to I will not.

Oh, well, in that case.

I can understand Lausen editing his own posts to remove his flames in an effort to make me look like the aggressor, but someone edited out my post here where I was defending myself from his flames.

Dude, I’m not even going to comment on this. It would take way to long and I know you are an insecure person. I have no intention of demoralizing you or anyone else. I’m sorry I stuck up for Tsunami. “Mishap game.â€

I'll be the bad guy. Both of you suck my dick and we'll call this whole thing even.

Present thy penis and it shall be sucked.

Wow,

I was about to defend the Xix for a couple of reasons and he stated everything in his own defense like a thousand times better than I ever could. His arguments were clear, calm, and precisely to the point.

He essentially confirmed everything that I suspected about his own intentions and I have to say I agree with him. For my reasons, see his arguments.

But Lausen, if you really want to "spare us" drama (as you said in your response) you probably should avoid saying things immediately following like:



But what killed me was your backhanded compliment:



That one killed me.

@bo - what would you have done if lone didn't know anything about anarchy or politics and instead someone who wasn't a mod has made the exact same post? there wouldn't be anything tangential to complain about!

Interesting how you want it taken to PMs when the matter concerns you, but when I say that an issue should be taken to PM, you pitch a hissy fit about it? Hmmm. If you want my job, I can give it to you for a week.

Who is lone? Stythe? N.L.Y.?

My complaint was not about anarchy. I could really care less about it. I was just answering Sarah's Knight's question as to whether or not I was an anarachist. What I didn't like was being told (and rudely at that) that I had to drop it in that cheating topic by a mod for being off topic, when he could have PM'd me to convey the same message himself without hypocritically being off topic. He threatened to shut down the topic if we didn't get back on topic.

So if someone who wasn't a mod made the exact same topic I would agree that we still shouldn't be off topic but it wouldn't be as much a problem because their threats couldn't be made actual, their rudeness wouldn't have been as glaringly unfair, and they wouldn't have been as hypocritical because they would not have as much motivation to protect the on-topicness of the posts, so going (unnecessarily) off-topic to do it wouldn't have been as inconsistent with their intentions.

@ShadowFox1001,
I have no idea what you are referring to as "hissy fit". Again nice tone.

I don't care if all things are PM or publicly in the appropriate topic, like here for example. The point is consistency. For a mod not to go off topic to chastise Magonians for being off-topic (!!!) (especially when it is unnecessary do the ability to PM or thanks to me do it publicly in this topic). Remember being off-topic is SO BAD that an admin has to chime in and remind me about it. Well if it is so bad why not deliver the message via PM or in this topic.

The only reason I say PM is because there is a greater liklihood for the addressed party to see it then here or even in the original topic the problem arises.

You understand that right?

As to me you can display it all publicly and hope that I see it. I'll gladly keep it public if I do. I have no reason to want to keep it private so sorry your implications that it is "interesting" when it involves me completely fail.

Wth is this thread? Like seriously...I just browse the forums a bit here and there to see what I've missed...and I stumble on this heaping pile of....well...whatever the hell it is it stinks.

Seriously can someone give me a good reason for having this thread? One that doesn't consist of twice force fed bullspit?

Why don't you change the channel?

Because you annoy me and I like to take easy potshots at you and yours when I have the chance?

It was a real question. We have an off-topic thread. We should all be mature enough to be able to respond in a thread to the topic at hand without killing the thread. Anything else can be handled through pms. That's why we have them.

I apologize. I went to edit my post to include the reasons below but you responded back before I could.

All right I'll give you reasons.

The ability to express yourself uninhibited so long as does not violate the rules of the Mag.

The ability to learn how to better engage individuals through reasoned arguments rather than irrational ranting.

The ability to continue discussion of points of contention that started elsewhere in a topic where it is on-topic and always appropriate.

I hope these reasons suffice but if you want we can start doing these in the off-topic thread.

But I don't think many people would appreciate that.

Some people like to treat argumentation as fighting and while I do love to argue I hate to fight. If you want argumentation in the off-topic thread I can do that. But if it is going to be thought of as fighting from the start, it is best to keep this channel open for those who embrace argument and hopefully by it, many can convert their fighting energy into rational argumentation.

Hmmm. For argumentation about topic hijacking? It would be more b*tching than arguing a case in point that someone hijacked the thread. What is this quote? IT'S FROM YOUR INITIAL POST. So, what are trying to do? Change the nature of this topic all of a sudden. All this topic was supposed to be was a complaint pool for people who lost the "integrity" or the original intent of their topics. People can argue about points in case of their topic in THAT topic. No one ever said they couldn't.

In response to that, I said that the person could take that complaint to a mod or admin and we could make a public post to stop it. You got defensive about that or said that something about it needed to be dealt with publicly and such.

I seriously will offer my job to you if think you can do better than me, lone/stythe or whoever else, Mr. Fair.