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PostPosted: December 2nd, 2008, 3:29 pm 
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Two men were shot to death at a Toys R Us store in Palm Desert.

The shooting occurred at about 11:30 Friday morning.

Officials confirmed that two men were killed, but there has been no official count on many shoppers, and children were in the store when the incident occurred.

Eyewitnesses told ABC7 that there was an argument that escalated into shooting.


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PALM DESERT, Calif. (KABC) -- Two men were shot to death at a Toys R Us store in Palm Desert.

The shooting occurred at about 11:30 Friday morning.

Officials confirmed that two men were killed, but there has been no official count on many shoppers, and children were in the store when the incident occurred.

Eyewitnesses told ABC7 that there was an argument that escalated into shooting.
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"It sounded like an argument. And then when the argument seems to be escalating, I told my little boy to ... get out of the cart. That's when we heard shots fired," said Sarah, an eyewitness.

Authorities say it all started when two women began punching each other near the registers. Each woman was accompanied by a man. Those two men, officials say, pulled out a handgun and shot each other.

Dan Wilson was on the phone with his wife while she was in the store.

"She just called me in a panic and I could hear the gunshots and I just told her to hide. And she hid ... I told her to turn off her ringer and she hid and called me back. The second call was hard, it was like a goodbye call ... she was terrified," said Wilson.

Officers were seen placing three people in patrol cars, which included a reported juvenile and a female. The three were not arrested.

At one point a family member of one of two men reportedly killed in the store lashed out at a suspect being detained.

"The officers went inside and located two deceased, Hispanic male adults. The deceased are towards the front portion of the store. We received many reports of what occurred. Our detectives are interviewing multiple customers that were inside. We're going to be talking to store personnel to find out what led up to this shooting," said Dennis Guitierrez, Riverside County Sheriff's Department.

Toys R Us officials issued a statement on Friday:
"We are outraged by the act of violence that occurred today in Palm Desert, California, and the fact that anyone would compromise the safety and security of our customers and employees. We are working closely with local law enforcement to determine the specific details of what occurred. Our understanding is that this act seems to have been the result of a personal dispute between two individuals. Therefore, it would be inaccurate to associate the events of today with Black Friday."


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"I think the obvious question everyone has is who takes loaded weapons into a Toys "R" Us?" he said. "I doubt it was the casual holiday shopper."

Ray Turner, 20, said he was two aisles away when two women began shouting and screaming at each other and he had a clear view of the fight until a crowd clustered around them. Both women had children, he said.


I like how Toys R Us was all like, It wasn't Black Friday... because then you could throw blame on us. I'm sure they questioned the two dead men to make sure the dispute had nothing to do with black friday, toys r us, or shopping in general.

Again... I love America.

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PostPosted: December 2nd, 2008, 8:35 pm 
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PostPosted: December 2nd, 2008, 11:13 pm 
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They said "there understanding was that...". How did they get that understanding. Asking the dead men is only 1 (likely unsuccessful) way of gaining an understanding, so unless they are blatanly lying, it was probably through testimony by other witnesses. In other words, it is possible that Toy's R Us has genuine reason to believe that it wasn't Black Friday. I see nothing wrong with being skeptical though but I would like to hear more where they got that understanding.

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PostPosted: December 3rd, 2008, 11:45 am 
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And even if it was Black Friday, how exactly does two wannabe thugs walking into a store and drawing on each other equate to Toys R Us being at fault?

In that case I have a problem with the owner of every bar I ever had a fight in.

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PostPosted: December 3rd, 2008, 11:52 am 
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I'm not saying it's the store's fault. It's not any more their fault than the guy who died in walmart. They were killed by other people...

I guess what I'm saying is that it's probably best to never go purchase anything on black friday, lest it's worth dying over... literally.

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PostPosted: December 4th, 2008, 7:43 pm 
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I must say I like Toys R' Us's reaction better than Wal-Mart's. Less sinister and seeming more like people's reactions.

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