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A Telford man has apparently committed suicide live on his webcam while others looked on.

Early reports suggest that the police were called when one of the people with access to the webcam alerted them to the situation.

Police broke into the home of the unnamed 53 year-old man on Wednesday evening but were unable to revive him.

The case echoes that of Brandon Vedas, a 21 year-old from Phoenix, Arizona, who committed suicide online using a mix of alcohol and prescription medication.

In that case people in the chatroom egged the young man on, while others tried desperately to find his address.

No details have been released as to the Telford mans identity.


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A father-of-two hanged himself live over the internet in Britain's first 'cyber suicide'.

Kevin Whitrick, 42, took his life after being goaded by dozens of chatroom users from across the world who initially believed he was play acting.

But as they watched in horror, Mr Whitrick climbed onto a chair, smashed through a ceiling and then hanged himself with a piece of rope

Kevin Neil Whitrick, 42, was found dead by police in Wellington, after being alerted by a web user who is thought to have watched in horror as the man harmed himself

Stunned by what they had witnessed - broadcast on a popular chatroom website used by millions of people across the globe - chatroom users immediately contacted the police.

Officers rushed to the electrician's home in the Wellington area of Shropshire within minutes, smashing down the door to try to save him.

Kevin Whitrick had two 12-year-olds who he visited regularly
But despite their efforts to save him, he was pronounced dead at the scene.

Last night it emerged that Mr Whitrick had been suffering from depression after being badly injured in a car crash last year.

Friends said that the breakdown of his marriage with wife, Paula - with whom he had 12-year-old twins - and the recent death of his father had also been causing him some distress.

Mr Whitrick told users of web-chat site PalTalk what he was going to do two hours before he killed himself on Wednesday night.

He was logged on with around 50 other users to a special "insult" chatroom where people "have a go at each other".

Today distraught users of the site said that they felt sick and had previously thought the web broadcast was a hoax.

They confirmed Mr Whitrick told friends in the internet chat room of his plans to kill himself but, thinking he was joking, they egged him on telling him to make sure the his webcam was on.

Mr Whitrick, using the user-name Shyboy-17-1, switched on his webcam and went ahead with his grisly plan.

One anonymous user said: "He tied a rope around an uncovered ceiling joist and stood on the chair as he tied the rope around his neck.

"Some of us chatroom users, talking to Kevin over text chat, microphones and video tried to convince him to step down, but others egged him on telling him to get on with it.

"We just couldn't believe he was doing it - it was surreal.

"One chatter said: 'F***ing do it, get on with it, get it round your neck. For F***'s sake he can't even do this properly'."

Another user who did not wish to be named said: "When Kevin stepped off the chair and was left dangling, the mood in the chatroom changed and people began to realise what they had just seen.

"We started asking if anyone knew where he lived and saying they should contact the police.

"I think someone contacted the police in their local area but sadly no one could get to him in time."

Shortly after, moderators on the site closed the feed from Kevin's webcam.

'Considerate and kind'

Mr Whitrick had been living in his flat, a converted house, after splitting from his wife Paula two years ago.

The couple, who married in 1988, had 12-year-old twins Lewis and Melissa who live with their mother in a three-bedroom, semi-detached home close by.

They are said to have visited their dad, who worked at family firm RMW electrical services in Shrewsbury, at weekends. His older brother Malcolm Whitrick is an associate director at Shrewsbury Town Football Club.

Kevin Whitrick's sparse profile on the paltalk website
Last night Mrs Whitrick said: "Kevin was a loving father and family man. He was always the life and soul of the party, an extremely considerate and kind person and loved by many, he will be so sadly missed by us all.

"Unfortunately Kevin had a very serious car accident in July 2006 and had never fully recovered back to full health."

Mr Whitrick's stepmother Betty Whitrick, 74, told the Mail: 'Kevin was a bubbly kind of person, full of fun. I just don't know why he would do this.

"He lived alone but he always cheerful when I saw him. I knew he was very into computers and he also used to like playing bowls."

Detective Chief Inspector Jon Groves who is leading the investigation said: "Our enquiries to date have revealed that Mr Whitrick was using a chat room with a number of other people at the time of his death.

"We are liasing with the internet service provider at this time to contact other users who were online at the time of this incident and who may have information that could assist our enquiries.

"We are also working to ensure that witness support facilities are available to those who may have been affected by what they saw."

Sharon Atwal, who works in a cornershop opposite Mr Whitrick's flat, described him as "subdued" the last time she saw him.

She said: "Every night he'd take eight cans of Boddington's bitter from the fridge and re-stock it with the cans from the shelf. He always seemed quite cheerful.

"On Wednesday night, though, he didn't seem himself and it was the first night that he did not re-stock the fridge. It was as if he knew he wouldn't be coming back.

"He always struck me as very happy, he was friendly and had two perfect kids. I cannot believe he has done this."

Her brother Bobby added: "Kevin has lived in the flat for the past year and I have seen him every day without fail.

"Last week, he told me about his chat room. He was excited and said he had set it up himself. He said he had been speaking to people in Australia on his webcam.

"His two children used to visit at weekends. He had a very good relationship with them and always gave them lots of money to buy sweets."

The case appears to echo that of Brandon Vedas, a 21 year-old from Phoenix, Arizona, who committed suicide online using a mix of alcohol and prescription medication.

In that case people in the chat room egged the young man on, while others tried desperately to find his address.

Local MP for the Wrekin, Mark Pritchard, said: "This is a very sad and rare incident. Our thoughts and prayers go out to the family.

"It is important that the use of the internet in this death is fully investigated."


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A father-of-two who apparently broadcast his own suicide live on a webcam died from hanging, police have confirmed.
The body of Kevin Whitrick was found on Wednesday night after a chatroom user contacted police to report the 42-year-old had "self-harmed".

Mr Whitrick, from Wellington, Telford, Shropshire, was found hanged by police.

His ex-wife said he had suffered a serious car accident in July 2006 and had never fully recovered.

In a statement Mr Whitrick's ex-wife said: "Kevin was a loving father and family man.

"He was always the life and soul of the party, an extremely considerate and kind person and loved by many.

"He will be so sadly missed by us all." West Mercia Constabulary said attempts were made to resuscitate Mr Whitrick, who has 12-year-old twins, but he was pronounced dead at the scene.

Detective Chief Inspector Jon Groves said: "Our inquiries to date have revealed that Mr Whitrick was using an internet chatroom with a number of other people at the time of his death.

"Police have managed to secure some of the necessary internet files and these will form part of our investigation.

"We are working to ensure that witness support facilities are available to those who may have been affected by what they saw.


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Instigation, the world gets sicker. Not that this news is rare or anything new but how many people do you think you can get into a chat room if you said you were committing sucide on cam? If I were to post the results you would be suprised just how many people would watch with enjoyment. This is entertainment people, the world isn't getting violent the man was just weak. Although my sarcasm can be terrible but what I about this topic is about how many of these morons would actually watch. Would you watch this man die for entertainment, literally you're not there so you wont' be traumatized as much. If I had that power to find those idiots and give them the attention they want from this so called "entertainment" then they would too maybe just end up on that rope. A man suicided, people watched, whats your point of view on this subject?


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People have lost the true meaning of death, IMO.

Too many people get on the net, just to mess with people cause they're safe far far away from possible harm.

You don't see someone going up to someone's face in the street and talking smack, cause they'd get stomped out.

And the users that egged him on to go and kill himself really need to re-examine how they go about things. Karma can be a b*tch.

If society as a whole continues going this way and see this type of sh*t as entertainment, then "The Running Man" will become a reality. Albeit they used prisoners, but the value of human life is slowly deteriorating and as I said, people are starting to lose the true meaning of death.

I mean, for those of you who go to YTMND.com, one of their fads makes fun of a kid who committed suicide and annouced it on his myspace page.
That's just an example.

People need to REALLY get the picture that, there are real people on the other side of the f*cking monitor of yours.

But, alas, that will never happen anytime soon and this will just continue.

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are these suicides on webcams common?
If so, its just plain sick.
But i guess anything could be considered entertainment. Even
death to most people.


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In that case people in the chatroom egged the young man on
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but others egged him on telling him to get on with it.

"We just couldn't believe he was doing it - it was surreal.

"One chatter said: 'F***ing do it, get on with it, get it round your neck. For F***'s sake he can't even do this properly'."

This is one of the worst things I've ever heard. :shakefist I personally hope that those who egged these people on get what they deserve.

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No these suicides are not common.

And look at what it says people. They weren't watching in entertainment. He was logged into an "insult" chat room. A place where you're actually supposed to f*ck with people.

Come on. How many have said things over the internet because you didn't think anything about it. How many of them do you think actually thought he would do it? Yes it's sad that they goaded him period, but how were they to know that he would follow through.

The man was going through a rough time, but that's not an excuse. I don't care what he was going through. To openly commit suicide in front of people is just sick. And look at it this way. At least the people had the sense to contact the police.

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You would think someone would pick a better chat room to hang out on. I know that there are chats where people act all stupid and stuff. I don't like to waste my time talking to those kinds of people. Maybe he wanted people to egg him on? Because he needed the boost to go through with his death. Either way. The guy needed medical help. Not a chat room full of losers.

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Those of you who say the man was sick were probably right, but I think you have to understand what it means to be "sick".

BTW, people use to gather at executions all the time, even in the US for racist lynchings before the government really started to crack down on local law enforcement.

I completely understand why someone who is not used to seeing people die can be offended by the imagery thrust upon them, but death is a part of life, essentially the meaning of life, and the modern world has seemed to forget that or failed to recognize it.

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BTW, people use to gather at executions all the time, even in the US for racist lynchings before the government really started to crack down on local law enforcement.


You know, that's actually a very good point. And it still happens actually. The saddam hussein execution video was up on the net for the world to see within a short period of time, which would be a good current day example.

Anyway, if you are on the net... you can expect flames every now and then. If you let that drive you to suicide... then... well. You needed some help way before hand.

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If you're willing to watch a man suicide on cam then you have some f*cked up issues.


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I have no qualm with that. But I was more refering to the guy than the people watching. To blame to people in the chat would be really dumb. People say things all the time to you... to act on that is your own stupidity.

But on second thought... Every time the captial punishishment is used, there is always a group of witnesses. Usually the family of the victims and whatnot, but the point is... there's always someone watching.

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If you're willing to watch a man suicide on cam then you have some clucked up issues.


It’s not like I don’t understand what you mean by that, but why do you say that?

Do you think everyone has the same level of empathy, voyeurism, or motivations?

What is the level in which one could properly say they don’t have issues.

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I completely understand why someone who is not used to seeing people die can be offended by the imagery thrust upon them, but death is a part of life, essentially the meaning of life, and the modern world has seemed to forget that or failed to recognize it.

Suicide, on the other hand, is pretty much frowned upon. Death happens, yes. But when death happens because someone decides to take his own life, that's something that should not be a part of life.

And it was just the insult chatroom. I'm assuming that the other guy wasn't in a chatroom like that, yet people still egged him on in there. True that they didn't know that he was actually going to do it, but I still hope they come to really regret their actions. Especially if they're one of the few who act all "this person was a douchebag" or something even after witnessing it happen.

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I completely understand why someone who is not used to seeing people die can be offended by the imagery thrust upon them, but death is a part of life, essentially the meaning of life, and the modern world has seemed to forget that or failed to recognize it.

Suicide, on the other hand, is pretty much frowned upon. Death happens, yes. But when death happens because someone decides to take his own life, that's something that should not be a part of life.


Where does your "should' come from? In other words, why do you think suicide should not be part of life if it is someone else's choice to kill themselves?

I don't like egging on people to do something they don't want to no matter what it is. I believe in persuasion over coercion.

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BTW, people use to gather at executions all the time, even in the US for racist lynchings before the government really started to crack down on local law enforcement.


When it comes to executions.. The one who is getting executed does not have a choice who's there to see him die. And depending on what the person did.
He may be hated by many, many people. Some think that revenge is sweet.
And thats why they go to those things.

But a man who takes his life because hes depressed is far from being hated.

Hes just a man who tried calling out for help one too many times and no one cares. So he lost hope.

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^ Yes. But he is not hated. So you can't really compare that to people watching an execution.

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Where does your "should' come from? In other words, why do you think suicide should not be part of life if it is someone else's choice to kill themselves?

What kind of freaked out question is that???

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Where does your "should' come from? In other words, why do you think suicide should not be part of life if it is someone else's choice to kill themselves?

What kind of freaked out question is that???


An honest one. I see no reason why someone who does not want to live must ALWAYS be forced to live. Why do you?

Let me help you out with what I mean. I think that many people that are suicidal if given the right help could not only overcome their suicidal feelings but also might be thankful for the help. Even if this is the vast majority of the people, I don’t see this to be the case for EVERYONE. One clear example is an old person who has clearly lived a “fulfillingâ€

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[quote="Anonymous Bo"]An honest one. I see no reason why someone who does not want to live must ALWAYS be forced to live. Why do you?

Let me help you out with what I mean. I think that many people that are suicidal if given the right help could not only overcome their suicidal feelings but also might be thankful for the help. Even if this is the vast majority of the people, I don’t see this to be the case for EVERYONE. One clear example is an old person who has clearly lived a “fulfillingâ€

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[quote="Draygone"][quote="Anonymous Bo"]An honest one. I see no reason why someone who does not want to live must ALWAYS be forced to live. Why do you?

Let me help you out with what I mean. I think that many people that are suicidal if given the right help could not only overcome their suicidal feelings but also might be thankful for the help. Even if this is the vast majority of the people, I don’t see this to be the case for EVERYONE. One clear example is an old person who has clearly lived a “fulfillingâ€

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