I'm just happy the PS3/Wii/360 debate doesn't even seem to be a factor as of late.
As far as I'm concerned Sony and Nintendo are the video game industry, and it's nice to see the popular opinion sway to something along the lines of sympathizing.

Yet another Wii accessory...

Oh... and bump.

... Oh, and I would be looking at what, specifically?

It's a light gun, sort of. Basically taking the GunCon two style and applying it to a holder for the Wiimote. I like the idea as I love playing Time Crisis 3 (besides the calibration).

As for Sony and Nintendo being the game industry I don't think so (yes I do realize this is just your opinion). You're probably right in Japan but Microsoft is just a big a part of the industry here in NA as the other two. Don't forget Windows is also a gaming platform (as pretty much all PC games use DirectX), plus the XBox did pretty well and the 360 is poised to do better. Plus I think this time around they have made some pretty good ground in becoming a respectable industry leader. Though I don't really like their monthly fee service Live, it is well implemented, and does add a lot to gaming (though it also drives console games ever closer to their PC counterparts in terms of having to have patches and such). With a lot of the current bad publicity surrounding Sony about the PS3, and really in general, Microsoft is poised to become the #2 company in games. Plus Microsoft does have a few good first party titles as well.

Even Sega is still around, though not as big a player they still do decent selling games.

So really in terms of pure game company, Nintendo is it, as they are the only company where gaming is the main (and pretty much only) source of revenue. But Microsoft is still a major player.

About the dead rising thing mentioned earlier, it's an HD game, and thus the text is very hard to make out on most standard TVs. Capcom's response to this? "you should buy an HD TV".

Expect almost every PS3 game to be the same way.

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History lesson folks: the PSX was going to ORRIGINALLY be the next Nintendo console after the SNES. Sega was already expiramenting with CD's and Nitendo wanted in on the action. They courted Sony and asked them to produce the consoles for them using thier microchips and CD reading technology. This was around 94'. Nintendo did the dumbest move ever, because, you see it was nintendo of AMERICA that was doing the coop. When the company heads in Japan cought wind of this they were furious! But here is the juicy bit, see, they wern't angry because of some Japanese code of ethics ensuing coropate rivalries. Oh no. they were pissed because they were in bed with Panasonic FOR THE VERY SAME REASON (chips and cd tech). While N.O.J. And N.O.A. bickkered, Sony caught wind of the Panasonic deal and thouhgt that they were being betrayed by nintendo as a WHOLE (remember: back then Sony just made electronics, NOT vieogame systems. The prevailing belife was the home consoles were TOYS. Sony WAS NOT a toy company. And they saw Nintendo as a a single unit not two sub units.)

This brings me to my point. when Sony jumped ship they were almost ready for full scale production. so they decided "Oh, what the hell, we might as well sell these things we spent 3 years R&D-ing" Slaped sony logos on everything kept the name and just redesighed the logo. The controllers were a joint development between nintendo and sony at the time and were ment to resemble the SNES contoller. Beause sony now owned the rights to the design and not only that, made the controller a proxy logo for the console, no other game companies could copy it completley. Which is the leading reason why Nintendo controllers started to suck hard around the release of the N64. (that and they had some bizzare idea that people would suddenly grow a third arm I'm convinced of this.)

$599 US DOLLARS $599 US DOLLARS

Yeah, see. The problem is there's nothing I want to play on the PS3, Final Fantasy is going downhill for me.

And Ixz already number crunched. I'd prefer to pay almost $500 for a decked out system(I never buy 4 controllers for my Nintendo systems at launch, so that's probably not going to happen), than to pay almost $700 or more dollars for a PS3 with simple launch titles. I remember being disappointed by the PS2 some with the launch material, except for perhaps my odd love of Evergrace from Agetec.

I harbor no animosity towards the PS3, if a game makes me buy it I'll get it. But as for me, Nintendo is just going in a direction I appreciate more with their nice 3rd-party game developing, as well as that solid first party support.

The Wii is still going to be a lot better than the PS3. It IS cheaper, and it's got a lot going for it.

Face it, Computers can do everything a console can do now. Why even make consoles anymore if a computer can trump it in terms of game variety? In order for consoles to stand up to computers, they have to be computers- and that includes the price.

Who wants to pay over $1,000 for a console? And even then it would only match up to a mediocre computer. Why even buy a console, if you can use your computer, which does so much more, to play games?

The only hope for console caming is one thing- originality. In order for consoles to stand up against computers they have to have something that computers do not. Nintendo knows this. Instead of investing in high price graphics and fancy CD formats, Nintendo has chosen to invest in originality and specialty. That's why they made the DS, and that's why their making the Wii.

By making touch-screen a integral part of their handheld, and funky hand movement a important aspect of their console, they have changed the focus of consoles from that of high power graphics and processing power, to that of unique-ness and specialty. This is the only way consoles can stand up to computers, and still be affordable.

In 10 years, will you want to buy a PS4 for over $1,000? And don't say it won't be that expensive, because in order for it to compete with computers, it'll need everything a computer has, and that costs $$$. Or you can opt out of the high power, great graphics race and settle for a cheaper, different console, one of Nintendo's. Nintendo won't focus on competeing against computers, instead it'll seek to be something different, and that'll be what makes it a sucess.

I hesitate to say this, but after hearing your argument, Phoenix, ... could it be that I have been persuaded to believe that Nintendo Wii will be the better of the two consoles?

Maybe for you...

Because while Phoenix has a good point... it's somewhat over analyzed.

You shouldn't by a console because of anything other than the games made for that console. I don't think they need to make consoles more like computers... we aready have those. All you need are good games. And that's what Sony and Nintendo are doing. I'm sorry but the 360 has pretty much killed over in my book. All the GOOD games can be played on another system (if you include the PC).

I really would like to get my hands on Twilight Princess. But that's about the only Wii game I'm really drooling over... wait.... Oh, that's right. Twilight Princess is also coming out for Gamecube. Scratch that.



You act like Final Fantasy is the only series on PS3... why is that?

Actually, there hasn't been a system come out yet that has more anticipated games (by me, mind you) as the PS3. Oh and you go ahead and pay 599. The 499 unit will do just as well. Just don't load of a plethora of movies and music on you 20 gig hard drive because game saves will take little to nothing (you have a computer for all that other shiz).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Pl ... on_3_games

Can you honestly go through that list and tell me there are more Wii titles than PS3 that are worth playing?

I agree. The only things keeping the PS3 alive are games like Final Fantasy XIII and MGS4.

For example, why would Square Enix make a trailer about XIII when they didn't even have XII out yet? The same reason why they put "Exclusively for the PS3" at the end. Fans of Final Fantasy will but a PS3 just so they can play XIII. Same thing goes for MGS4 and a bunch of other games exclusively for the PS3.

However, although fans may be willing to pay $499 for a PS3 now, they may change their mind once they hear the PS4 will be $1,000, even if Square says "Final Fantasy XIV, exclusively for the PS4". Few fans will go as far as to purchase a thousand dollar system just because they like a series, and when Square sees this, they will pull support from the PS3 and go to other companies- and that'll be the end of Sony.

So while it's acceptable now for fans to buy a system for $499 or $599, they may not be so forgiving once the price goes up even higher when/if the PS4 comes out.

Buty wait... there's more.





Wii compatable? Looks like a Game Cube controller with a keyboard in the middle.

But yeah, I hear you. And I think you are right. $1000 makes it sound like your soul is a better trade. One can only hope that the gaming industry quits being a money hog and worries more about the end users.

That's one crazy controller! They have a similar thing for the PS2.



More like, worry about the future of their company!

*makes a mockery of the tiny little space bar*

But yeah... If Sony tries to up the anti they'll set themselves up.

Word on the street is that FF12 is awesome. And that word is coming from almost everybody at the Pavilion who has bought the game. 'Course the experience is limited to the first few hours, so who knows how good it is overall.I fail to see the logic behind this statement. First off, I was under the impression that computers were always more powerful than consoles. Second, I see consoles as being better because you don't have to worry about upgrading a console every 6 months or so, just buy a new console every four or five years. I do not want to have to worry about upgrading my consoles. Nifty accessories like the Game Boy Player aside. Also, I've had more fun with console games than I had with PC games. Console gaming has a larger variety. You don't see very many platformers on PC, and most of them that are are ports of console games anyway.That would be because it is a GameCube controller with a keyboard in the middle, made for GameCube because GameCube doesn't have a USB port and thus is incompatible with USB keyboards. I think that Wii does have a USB port or two, which means one wouldn't need the GameCube keyboard if they have a USB keyboard.

The Wii has only 2 USB ports "conveniantly" placed on the back of the unit.

I can't find if it supports standard USB keyboards or not.

I don't see why not. USB is USB. It'd only make sense that regular USB keyboard would work in it, especially considering how Wii is gonna be using that Opera browser, among other things.

Well, there was an artical that specifically said "Wii Supported keyoards"... which means that there are keyboards that must not be supported by their USB... or there would be no reason to called them 'Wii supported" in the first place.

http://www.wiikeyboard.com/ (aslo were I found the Gamecube-keyboard)



While looking, however, I found out that the PS3 will support keyboards and mice that can be used as controls for games.... so all the FPS fans can keep the feel of a computer. Which is nice seeing as I'm an avid Unreal Tournament player.

http://www.ps3focus.com/archives/120

Eh I don't know, one of the main reasons I like console games is because I don't have to use a keyboard and mouse. Not really sure why but I like a controller much better for playing games. It would be nice if RPG Maker supported a mouse though, or fully integrated the keyboard so you wouldn't have to use the controller. But can't have your cake and eat it too I guess.

But yeah as far as USB support goes PS3 wins that as it has the most slots, with 360 only having 3, and Wii only having 2, though it only has 4.

It only makes sense that mouse/keyboard support would be available in a FPS, as FPSs originated on the PC.