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PostPosted: April 3rd, 2008, 11:21 pm 
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I have been informed recently that I and/or staffers are responsible for mistakes on this site. Is this true?

I request full and completely honest feedback on this. I cannot fix anything if you do not respond to me. I cannot read your minds.

Am I off-base here or is this a legitimate problem?

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PostPosted: April 3rd, 2008, 11:23 pm 
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"unrest" = ?

I think people's answers will vary from yes to no partially dependent on how they read that rather loaded word.

I personally PM'd you.


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PostPosted: April 3rd, 2008, 11:25 pm 
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PostPosted: April 3rd, 2008, 11:29 pm 
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I have no unrest, but it needs to be said-

No improvement can come from silent disdain. I feel that issues with anything should be brought up in a mature manner so everyone involved can work together and improve this wonderful site.

We had the same problem in anime club. People were at ill-ease, and then they said nothing. I heard from anon, so I fought to remedy any and all problems.

Back to the site- this isn't a huge website, and I think a small core of dedicated staffers is enough to handle it. I think simple is better- and that goes without saying- unneeded complications are not essential.

I guess that I don't agree with the 1 topic 5 post a day thing, but I really think it was an idea that was great in theory. It also DID encourage me to post more, so I guess that it did serve its purpose!

Bottom line- unrest is unrest unless you speak.

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PostPosted: April 3rd, 2008, 11:38 pm 
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"unrest" = ?

I think people's answers will vary from yes to no partially dependent on how they read that rather loaded word.

I personally PM'd you.


What would you call it? I will edit my post if you have a better, non-loaded word for it.

And why not bring this out here so everyone can see? No more cloak and daggers ('cept the things).

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I think that the use of 'mistakes' would... heh, would be (only a little) less loaded. But perhaps it's not the word you want to use, and the question asked is after all your own.

for me, 'mistakes' would cover questions of possible...

Little injustices, slow or mistaken reactions to one problem or another. Troubling policy changes, troubling practices?

I personally get a little sick of seeing certain (allegedly admired and respected) people pushed down repeatedly, and of knowing that things probably won't change.

Perhaps, on a related note, I get a little fed up of certain administrative practices.

For a choice of word, how does that suit you? I apologise if i'm answering an unasked question.


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PostPosted: April 3rd, 2008, 11:59 pm 
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I changed it.

But you don't know that "things probably won't change" at all. If anything, the last couple of days have been (I would hope) indicators of that.

And you need to name names. No more innuendo. If we're gonna talk, we're gonna just say it, dammit.

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PostPosted: April 4th, 2008, 5:27 am 
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If you want names named, I would be more than happy to present my full and complete opinion on all staff members past and present. However, I believe I can make a point without doing so - all persons related will know who they are.

Being on staff and being part of management are now and always have been two different things, whether it be on a website or in the workplace. Each have different responsibilities, and different expectations. Moreover, they are not entirely different, either.

Both have similarities, as well. Consistency. Reliability. Good cognition. These, and many other traits, make a person more valuable to the rest of the group.

We don't have a lot of room to be picky about who is who in our forums, because we don't have an overly massive userbase. However, I will say it very clearly for anyone who doesn't understand or doesn't want to say it themselves: some people who were/could be on staff here have absolutely no place being there.

Being a part of staff or management is not a luxury. It is not a nametag, it is not a color for your username. It is not a social status. Ix is going in a very good direction with what he's doing, because it brings the Mag back to reality and puts things back into perspective.

Being a moderator, an editor, a contributor, an administrator, or any other possible position, is a job. It is volunteer work. Something that one should be doing not because they want a f*cking color or a badge; instead, because they genuinely want to.

Having just one or more people on staff who simply dont actually care about what they're supposed to be doing brings down the mood of the entire place. That.. is probably what whoever brought this up was trying to get at.

Any words beyond that are unnecessary.


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The only thing I want to really add to that is that we are basically starved for content. Agetec has lost it's focus on makers and what attention there is, it's on cellphones... in Japan.

This isn't just a user and staffer issue. It's kind of a mix of all these negetive traits at the same time. The RPG Tsukuru 4 news was the biggest thing to really happen in our community since.... what? The last issue we put out?

But to answer your question... no. You can't point fingers at just one source.

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Actually, all problems can be pointed back to Ix....since he has total control over this sight and everything can be linked indirectly back to him.

Not that I would blame Ix (not solely). I'm just saying. ANd I don't blame staffers solely either. There's enough blame for everyone to have their piece of the pie, and everyone has (including myself).

The only real thing I can say is...wipe your slate clean. Ix is trying to do that. Just start over, do your best, and hope we get it right this time.

Or we can shoot sh*t back and forth at each other all day. Hell, I already got my shots in on most of you so I really couldn't care less. OK, that's a lie...I really care...So let's just do what we can now.

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PostPosted: April 4th, 2008, 12:22 pm 
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Being a part of staff or management is not a luxury. It is not a nametag, it is not a color for your username. It is not a social status. Ix is going in a very good direction with what he's doing, because it brings the Mag back to reality and puts things back into perspective.

Being a moderator, an editor, a contributor, an administrator, or any other possible position, is a job. It is volunteer work. Something that one should be doing not because they want a clucking color or a badge; instead, because they genuinely want to.


Rock on. Seriously- becoming a mod or staffer for these reasons is overly disgusting. It's not a status to lord over others.

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Actually, all problems can be pointed back to Ix....since he has total control over this sight and everything can be linked indirectly back to him.

Not that I would blame Ix (not solely). I'm just saying. ANd I don't blame staffers solely either. There's enough blame for everyone to have their piece of the pie, and everyone has (including myself).

The only real thing I can say is...wipe your slate clean. Ix is trying to do that. Just start over, do your best, and hope we get it right this time.

Or we can shoot shiz back and forth at each other all day. Hell, I already got my shots in on most of you so I really couldn't care less. OK, that's a lie...I really care...So let's just do what we can now.


Yes, because Ixzion is supposed to watch this site all day and night- he MUST be responsible. I do agree that it was him who hired any and all staffers- but this once again links back to people not speaking up. Have a moderator treat you sour in the forums? WRITE IXZION A DAMN PM. The man isn't psychic, the man might not even know you're upset, the man has school, the man has a job, the man has a life outside these forums! If you're getting picked on, or feel you are uneasy with someone in power, contact their superior... otherwise, how is Ixzion supposed to read your mind? Different things disparage certain people- a cynical comment could break someone's heart and make someone else just have a good laugh about it in any situation.

This site doesn't even have to exist, and Ixz pays for this pretty much out of his own pocket. If complaints need to be said, bring it to Ixzion before a shitstorm has the CHANCE to happen. I'm surprised that the forums weren't just closed over how ridiculous this has gotten.

Ya know, I've dealt with defending the little guy before on a different set of forums. But this time, I just think it was a chain of misunderstandings and overreactions.

Ixz has done the right thing with these boards- he fired all the staffers to start over once again- so you won't have to worry about complaining anymore, so you can feel at ease, so new people who truly want to help can become staffers and forum moderators.

Just remember, Ixz does everything he can for this site, and being spiteful and uncooperative is just the lowest possible blow you can do to someone who has provided this space.

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Personally, I'm usually not sure what is happening most of the time, so I haven't really noticed anything.

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Personally, I'm usually not sure what is happening most of the time, so I haven't really noticed anything.


Im in this boat too.


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@Fay - I'm not sure If that was directed at me or just going off my post, but either way I think you might have slightly misunderstood me (maybe not though).

I'm in no way actually blaming Ix. The man is doing a great job, and he know personally that I feel that way. I was just responding to Lantis. It is possible to point all fingers back at Ix. Doing so would make you a douche but it is possible.

I personally don't know what made Ix ask this question. I think what he's started with R/E is a great thing, and honestly before that I still thought he was doing his damnedest.

Do I think there were problems? Yes.... Do I think we're on the road to fixing them? Yes.

The question Ix asked made it sound like something had happened after R/E started so I really don't know where to approach the question from. Which is why I responded off someone else's post and then tried to elaborate myself.

As I said..I don't actually think any one person is to blame... I think everyone has either done something, or done nothing (which can be just as bad) at one time or another to be blamed for the direction the mag was headed before R/E (I include myself in that..hell I'll even cite examples of myself being a f*cktard if you want.).

If you have a problem speak up about it..But we're all mature enough (or should be) to handle it in the correct manner. (looks cross eyed at myself)

But like I said...I think we're heading on the right track now so I'm not quite sure where this post came from.

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Personally, I'm usually not sure what is happening most of the time, so I haven't really noticed anything.


Im in this boat too.


I'm also in this boat.

The only real problem (which was really more of an annoyance than a true "problem") was getting criticized by moderators for things they themselves hypocritically would do (i.e. go off topic, fail to use a PM when it was appropriate, etc.).

Ixzion, you seemed pretty good about getting back to me when I tried to reach, and otherwise despite things I myself personally do not prefer (i.e. the SPAM forum), I have no real complaints.

Can someone better explain what all this discussion is of late?

EDIT: For example, are moderators not doing their job, or am I not the only one that notices an abuse of power or what? In other words, why the big management overhaul?

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personally u dont need a super huge amount of mods...for the forums u need just lantis and 1 smod to back him up on rest of the forums. for the main site ull need ur few editors to help ixz out.

id dint care about my mod spot nor wondered why i had it after sumi broke the f*ck up of chat forum...i mean. i didint have power over the debate and what other there was when there was times that it got a lil rough and i was only one around and couldnt exactly..do anything.

no one posted in the chat discussion part is what im saying... so i was pretty much nulled from doing much.

but anyway. u dont need a shitton of ppl to do the smallest jobs..like u dont need a mod for rp or anything small and unused ....just major subforums,


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i dont see any problems. ix is open to change so thats all that really matters. the place is moving very slowly, but this is due to disinterest in a game thats considered old now that several years has passed.

over time the interest in these games will get less and less as people move on to other makers (non console ones) or decide to devote less time to it. our only benefit will be from other sites that shut down due to lack of activity, where active members of those communities will look to places like the pavi and mag to get a greater response for their games (plus seek faster help).

perhaps an activity boost will help this place out but i dont feel there is any serious problems that would merit a post like this. remember, its us who needs to show interest in the maker. ix already held a content that fell absolutely flat, what else is there to do?

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I agree with others here that the problem really isn't the Mag itself, but the lack of content that makes this place what it is. If people are getting burnt out on their makers, then we can't blame them, or the Mag.

Personally, its hard for me to keep my head in my RPGM3 project, because I can't help but feel that it IS a bit outdated. Not to mention, there are better versions that only get released in Japan, and the cell phone thing....ugh!

Plus, I honestly haven't been spending as much time as I would like on the Mag, so I can't really make personal statemants about people who make mistakes, or anything of the like. I'm basically still a stranger.

Yeah, I just thought I would throw in my two cents, even though most of my words are an eccoe of what has already been stated.

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This is the result of reported things that I thought needed to be sorted out in the open. It will be bare for all to see.

I have a ton of different things I'm doing, and so will try to hit on a thing or two.

My staff is what I'm responsible for. Any of their treatment reflects badly on me. However, I cannot read your minds or be everywhere at once. You gotta help me help you.

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But this time, I just think it was a chain of misunderstandings and overreactions.

Ixz has done the right thing with these boards- he fired all the staffers to start over once again- so you won't have to worry about complaining anymore, so you can feel at ease, so new people who truly want to help can become staffers and forum moderators.


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