it was a SIMPLE explination, Bo. Besides, 0 and Ø are essentially the same thing untill you start talking hardcore mathematics.

*EDIT*
And on another note, Saying that division by zero comes back as undefined because 0 can go into something infinitely is abit of a cop out. Infinity is itself a wrench in the undefined arguement due to the fact that if you were to divide infinity by 0 you would end up dividing infinitly, among that which is already infinite, and then you would end up with 1 because the problem with dividing infinity by any number whose absolute value is greater than 0 is you still get infinity. (Yes that doesn't make sense, and also is demonstrability false; that's the point.)

The reason for this blatant incongruity is that to divide something it has to be something to begin with. It presupposes the very act of division in the first place. Immagine an empty box. Now, can you divide up the empty space inside the box and still have that space equal 0?

Yes you can. Use 2 dimensional planes and the space will be divided. However, you had to give the space form to make the division possible. With out that, the planes would stretch on forever and the only way it could then be divided was if you assume that the space we are putting this equasion in is curved. Otherwise, it will always be nothing no matter how we try to slice it up. Therefore 0/0=0 and NOT Ø.

If you have 1 apple and you divide it 0 times, you still have 1 apple.

I win!

Technically if you divide a single apple at all, you'll still have 1 apple... just in however many pieces you divided it into.

But if you divide an apple into 0 groups... then somehow the apple would just cease to be since it was forced into a group that consist of nothing.

Stop attaching physical metaphors to non-real numbers.

Empty boxes are not a valid representation of 0. The empty space was never 0. It's one (1!) unit of empty space, whether it's full of air or an air tight vacuum. It's that easy to turn an example from one you like to one that doesn't work, and should outline clearly why you can't use these kinds of examples.

Also, as has been mentioned by both me and facts, in purely mathematical terms:

0/0 = x
0 = 0x
x = any number up to and including infinity, and also no single solution.

Apples.. well. Yeah.

Math is math. Everything else has no meaning.

You do realize that you're changing your formula by saying this, right? You're saying that since there is an apple at all, the formula is now 1/0.

lol

Ridiculous things don't get less ridiculous the longer they go. There's probably an equation for it, somewhere.

Not to mention the fact that if you divide one apple 1 time, you get 2 pieces, and last I checked 1/1 != 2, unless the Party tells you it is so. 2 times, 3 pieces, 3 times, 4 pieces, etc. The classic off by one error, since the formula would be (x apples) / (n divisions + 1) = y pieces, and this formula would be undefined for n < 0 since negative divisions do not make sense.

well you could really use physical explanations... like...

I HAVE NOTHING AT ALL IN MY HAND!!! i want to give it to nobody. how much of nothing can i give to nobody?

ALL OF IT AND MORE! because you could keep giving nothing to nobody forever and never run out of nothing to give and nobody will never be unable to take it?
NONE OF IT! because there is nothing to give and nobody to give it to so it was never given in the first place?

or you could also say i have an apple. yum yum!

i'm going to give this apple to nobody, so how much of the apple does nobody get?

ALL OF IT AND MORE! because nobody could keep taking the apple forever until it disintegrated completely which would be it just being divided by other things that are not 0 until it became zero itself and it's nobody trying to take nothing which is the example above.
NONE OF IT! because nobody can't take a something and it remains untouched until disintegration etc etc...?

so nobody knows, it's undefined *shrug*

if you gave nobody an apple like left it sat on a table until it disintegrated into not existing itself, how would you know if nobody took all of it or none of it at any point before it stopped existing and nobody was taking nothing? you'd be like.. well of course the answer is 0 because it's still there. but of course it is still there. because there was nobody to take it. you walk off and come back a week later like 'phew, nobody took my apple!' which is true - nobody DID take your apple. nobody took the WHOLE APPLE AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN! good thing nobody was around to take it, or somebody might have!

just remember like zero is both positive and negative. ^^ it's bi.

(this post does make actual sense. not like staffys posts... which i'm still coming to terms with)

The point I was trying to make was that 0 is not Void. Infinity divided by void would be undefined, but infinity divided by zero is ZERO ( just like every thing else. >_> )

There is no equation that will give 0 when dividing by 0.

"Undefined" is also just a convention placed on the idea of division by 0, and by your terms is an even greater "cop out" than the theory attached to the concept of division by 0 that you clearly dodge around because "undefined", in itself, takes no f*cking theory.

You don't belong in this thread.