Rant: YTMND.com and why you shouldn't visit.

Ixzion · **Posted:** July 21st, 2005, 1:02 pm

I've been visiting YTMND.com for a couple of months, and while I enjoyed it at first for its style of humor, the site has turned incredibly sour over this time period. Or perhaps, it never changed and I didn't notice. Regardless, I am going to display a couple of very important reasons why you shouldn't go to this site anymore, or if you've never visited, why you shouldn't start.

First off, which is the reason I wanted to write this, is the flagrant spoilers plastered everywhere on the front page for Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, which I thankfully finished reading yesterday. In addition to this, someone on their forums posted this:

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I am the greatest human being on the face of this planet.

I didn't have a mask, but I didn't really need one. I had 25 printed-out copies of the two pages that are in my first post. Armed with my sheets of doom, a loud voice, an itching for adventure, and my brother with a video camera in hand, we drove down to Barnes and Noble, ready to strike fear into the hearts of Harry Potter fans everywhere.

We parked around side, and went inside. They had blocked off a large section at the front of the store where people were discussing the new Harry Potter book and all that good stuff. Well, lemme tell you some more about these copies. I had them folded up into a three-fold envelope-like manner, with the words, "Harry Potter Fan Club for Fort Walton Beach" on the front. When I got there, I cleared my throat quite loudly and held up my stack and said something along the lines of, "Excuse me everyone, but I've started up a Harry Potter Fan Club for Fort Walton Beach. We meet every other Saturday (I think I said Saturday) to discuss the series and the movies and stuff. Here's all about it!" And I started rapidly handing out the envelopes. I love the first reaction I received when people found out what it was (I highlighted the part where it said that *spoiler here*).

"What is this? OH MY GOD WHAT IS THIS? IS THIS? IS THIS?"

As soon as the guy said that, it made everyone else wanna see what it was, too. Wonderful for them, indeed. As soon as people started reading it and reacting, I shouted for all the people who had not opened their papers or hadn't received one (there were about 45 people, 25-30 of them kids and teens) to hear:

"*spoiler*!"

...this was the start of hell. All of the following took place at once:

Two dads immediately started to console their daughters, who were now crying because they had the book ruined for them. One of the dads got up and came after me, yelling something about how he's ruined one of his daughter's favorite things to do or some sh*t. I wasn't really listening above my own laughter.

Another guy, apparently an employee who was working that section, came after me, and had to separate me from the charging guy, who stopped and went back to his daughter, cursing at me for doing this. Other people were yelling to get my ass out of the store. Most of the parents were trying to console their children, who were crying. Some people threw up their hands and left the store.

While this was going on, my brother was standing at the door, video camera in hand. He recorded my yelling and the guy charging me, but as soon as he saw that guy get up, he took off out of the second door (the one closest to the inside) and stood in front of the first door. The second door was held open by one of the employees because the other one (the really skinny guy who came and stopped the other guy from charging me) was trying to escort me out. I'm going to try and upload this tomorrow, but after watching it on the way home, it was shoddy, I was hard to hear, and Sammy (brother) is the worst cameraman ever. The f*cker is shaky and a quarter of the time he's trying to adjust the zoom.

Anyhow, the guy finally asks me to leave, and as he's blocking me from going any farther (the middle was arranged all weirdly; I couldn't go any direction but out), I scream out once more:

"*spoiler*!"

And then I ran out.

No stampeding fanboys and girls. Mostly just crying younglings and angry parents. But I did get this fat-ass teen b*tch in my face on my way out. I just screamed, "BWAAAAAAAAAGH!" in her face, and she kind of jolted and backed off. I twitched my face a little to scare her, and then Sammy and I ran back to his car, parked around side, and left. I looked back at the door, and there was a large group of people who were leaving. I couldn't tell, but I suppose most of them were without books.

I am the greatest person alive.

He's more along the lines of "the load his mom should have swallowed." I mean, I understand that some people don't like the books, and that's perfectly fine; you don't have to. But to ruin something for other people who have been waiting so long is just uttery and plainly wrong. I've been sitting here trying to think of some type of word to describe "people" (I use the term loosely), but the only one that crosses my mind is "evil".

To make matters worse, the site creator Max doesn't care. In fact, he encourages this behavior. He, himself, has made two different threads on the forum entitled "*spoiler here*". Not only that, but to add insult to injury, he renamed an ENTIRE FORUM to *HP SPOILER*.

I truly feel sorry for the people who decided to log on to the site to take a break from the book and walk into this. I've had things ruined for me, and it doesn't feel good.

The other reason, as if what I've said wasn't warning enough that site staff doesn't give a sh*t about you, is that the site is really racist.

Site and forum combined, you see language that covers the entire derogatory dictionary's spectrum, from blacks to asians to latinos. And there is absolutely no moderation going on at this.

Anyone who brings up a serious and legitimate complaint against such things is immediately put down and Max takes it as a joke. It's appalling to see such behavior from a site like this, and it's shooting itself in the foot by not throwing up at least a veil of decency.

So, to recap, YTMND.com is a den of sex, racism, and assholes. Go there if you wish, but at your own risk.

Bonanza · **Posted:** July 21st, 2005, 1:55 pm

Nice ranting, Ixz.

And that guy who made the youngins cry should fry for this erratic behavior.

Agentsix · **Posted:** July 21st, 2005, 5:04 pm

That guy has a serious problem. Even tho I'm not into much reading books, I still think that if you don't like the book then just don't read it.

Fayorei · **Posted:** July 22nd, 2005, 5:50 am

That's really horrible. I made Steph tell me the spoiler. Meh.

Bonanza · **Posted:** July 22nd, 2005, 12:36 pm

Well, as long as you wanted to hear it, Goten.

Staffy · **Posted:** July 23rd, 2005, 3:46 am

That guy is mah hero. ^_^

I'm serious.

What the f*ck are you doing reading a CHILDRENS BOOK anyway ix? I never got that. Adults reading the books. Also, I feel the books got WAY to over commercalized and hyped, thus they have become nothing more than a fad to me. In much the same way Pogs came and whent. Such is nary worth the paper it's printed on. What little I have read of the books have made me want to wrech uncontrolably due to the overt cuteness and sap, and the movie that I was duped into seeing was the most predictable peice of crap I've ever seen, AND I NEVER READ THE BOOK. J.K. Rowling should have kept to her happy english home makeing or whateverthefuck she used to do, OR BETTER YET GOT SHOT. Boy THAT would break all the little snot noses hearts woulden't it? No, they'd find somthing else to latch onto, and drain their parents wallets. I'm telling you, Harry potter is nothing more than a litterary "tickle me elmo." Once the last word is written and the last page read, the books will share shelf space with those dusty tomes such as R.L. Stine's "GooseBumps" and the "Ramona" Novels, never to be read again. Seriously, WE ALREDY KNOW THAT POTTER GETS BUMPED OFF AT THE END. ROWLING ADDMITED IT! (mind you he'll be in his 30's by then, or so I've heard) Voldemort wins and life is prooved to be as frickin' crappy as it always was. WHOOPTY f*cking DOO.

I applaud the guy for doing this. And he probably saved all those parents $29.95. They should be thanking him not chastizing him. Those kids should be doing proper things such as playing videogames, or GASP! going out side, anyway.

Ixzion · **Posted:** July 23rd, 2005, 5:27 am

Staffy wrote:

That guy is mah hero. ^_^

I'm serious.

What the f*ck are you doing reading a CHILDRENS BOOK anyway ix? I never got that. Adults reading the books.

Hmm...one reason that a person may read a book is because it's interesting.

But really, the Harry Potter books aren't some over-simplified crap. If you read them, which you won't, then you would see that the books are as much fun for an "adult" reader as it is for a child. Rowling uses a varied vocabulary and paints a picture that can draw you in pretty quickly.

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Also, I feel the books got WAY to over commercalized and hyped, thus they have become nothing more than a fad to me. In much the same way Pogs came and whent. Such is nary worth the paper it's printed on.

Yes, because over-commercialization and hype make a good book turn bad. I don't like how people love something one minute, but then turn their backs on it when it's "gone commerical" or "sold out" or some dumb sh*t like that.

I think that the Potter "fad" will be over pretty soon, too, though. As soon as the 7th book has been out for a while.

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What little I have read of the books have made me want to wrech uncontrolably due to the overt cuteness and sap, and the movie that I was duped into seeing was the most predictable peice of crap I've ever seen, AND I NEVER READ THE BOOK.

I'll give you the movies, because I don't like them as much as the book.

However, what overt cuteness are you talking about?

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J.K. Rowling should have kept to her happy english home makeing or whateverthefuck she used to do, OR BETTER YET GOT SHOT. Boy THAT would break all the little snot noses hearts woulden't it? No, they'd find somthing else to latch onto, and drain their parents wallets.

Yeah, but I'm sure they'd be disappointed in not having the final book.

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I'm telling you, Harry potter is nothing more than a litterary "tickle me elmo."

This from the guy who hasn't even read a full book. You remind me of legislators who see GTA3 and the "beating up prostitutes" thing and make the grand decision that GTA3 is nothing but a "beat-up-the-hookers-after-sex" game. Nevermind its gameplay.

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Once the last word is written and the last page read, the books will share shelf space with those dusty tomes such as R.L. Stine's "GooseBumps" and the "Ramona" Novels, never to be read again.

I'm sure that anyone who's read the books will want to give them to their children.

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Seriously, WE ALREDY KNOW THAT POTTER GETS BUMPED OFF AT THE END. ROWLING ADDMITED IT! (mind you he'll be in his 30's by then, or so I've heard) Voldemort wins and life is prooved to be as frickin' crappy as it always was. WHOOPTY f*cking DOO.

Of course, you don't know anything about the 7th book, so I'm not taking that seriously. But, if you throw out real spoilers, YOU ARE IP BANNED. Don't take my kindness as a weakness.

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I applaud the guy for doing this. And he probably saved all those parents $29.95. They should be thanking him not chastizing him.

No, this asshole did NOT save those parents the money. They already bought the damn book! And he caused the parents the trouble of having to comfort the kids after he ruined a special event in their lives.

And you think he deserves a medal? I think that's a really f*cked up view, to be honest.

How would you feel if New Game XV came out, which you really wanted to play and experience, and some idiot like him came and told you the ending? Put yourself in their shoes before you go and say something like that.

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Those kids should be doing proper things such as playing videogames, or GASP! going out side, anyway.

Oh, and this is the best part. Instead of reading, the children should be playing videogames. Great f*cking idea.

Bonanza · **Posted:** July 23rd, 2005, 9:46 am

There's a lot of things that are labeled "children," movies, or books, that can be enjoyed by an adult, and "Lemony Snicket" is a good example.

Agreeing with above first.

Staffy · **Posted:** July 23rd, 2005, 4:47 pm

Ixzion wrote:

Hmm...one reason that a person may read a book is because it's interesting.

But really, the Harry Potter books aren't some over-simplified crap. If you read them, which you won't, then you would see that the books are as much fun for an "adult" reader as it is for a child. Rowling uses a varied vocabulary and paints a picture that can draw you in pretty quickly.

Both opinions. They prove nothing but a differing point of veiw.

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Yes, because over-commercialization and hype make a good book turn bad. I don't like how people love something one minute, but then turn their backs on it when it's "gone commerical" or "sold out" or some dumb sh*t like that.

I think that the Potter "fad" will be over pretty soon, too, though. As soon as the 7th book has been out for a while.

No, I didnt like them before...well I was more nutral actualy. It's something about 15 million obsessed 8 year olds wanting something that just turns me off. Grown adults wanting the same thing disgusts me. The fact that people treat it as some sort of religious expiriance to read the book makes me want to vomit.

I wrote:

What little I have read of the books have made me want to wrech uncontrolably due to the overt cuteness and sap, and the movie that I was duped into seeing was the most predictable peice of crap I've ever seen, AND I NEVER READ THE BOOK.

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I'll give you the movies, because I don't like them as much as the book.

However, what overt cuteness are you talking about?

A valid inquiry. Potter can do no wrong; it seems that he cannot fail, or fall, and everyone arround him seems to take this as a matter of course. This is the sappyness. The cuteness derives from the language that Rowling uses. (I saw an interveiw she did on the today show a few years back where she decribed this) She uses the most bizzare uncommon plant names as inspireation for her character and place names names. LAY-ZEE. REAL fantasy authors use cool sounding gibberish or foreign languages for that sort of thing. But that's not so bad if you think about it, I addmit, however she picks the only the ones that have the cutest or least known names. SHE SAID IT HERSELF!

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Yeah, but I'm sure they'd be disappointed in not having the final book.

Right, right. TOO BAD! >:( Sides, she has a husband or a sibling I'm willing to bet, and I'm DAMN sure she has notes. They could ghost write the last book if it came to that. Sides, I meant she should have got shot BEFORE she wrote the books. Kind of hard to want something you don't even know exists. :rolleyes

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This from the guy who hasn't even read a full book. You remind me of legislators who see GTA3 and the "beating up prostitutes" thing and make the grand decision that GTA3 is nothing but a "beat-up-the-hookers-after-sex" game. Nevermind its gameplay.

I didn't like GTA either. And I DID play that. The car controll was sloppy and there was no way to talk to people on the street to find crap out. I remember I wanted to find out what some woman knew about some guy for some mission I was on, or just to see if she said anything, I cant remember now, and I ended up slaping her instead. She then chased me for 2 blocks before I lost her in an alley. "Open ended" MY ASS.
Besides, I find nothing ammusing about a game where all you do is commit crimes to gain notoriety. It would be one thing if you were out to vindicate your self in the eyes of scocety and a few eggs got broke in the process, but GTA had none of that. It was all about revenge, at any cost.
But I digress. this is about Potter, not GTA.

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I'm sure that anyone who's read the books will want to give them to their children.

Sure, in 20 or 30 years. But it's probably going to be like when your parents gave you their old coppys of "the Hardee Boys" or that one girl who solved mysteries...can't remember her name at the moment...
Anyway, you see my point.

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Seriously, WE ALREDY KNOW THAT POTTER GETS BUMPED OFF AT THE END. ROWLING ADDMITED IT! (mind you he'll be in his 30's by then, or so I've heard) Voldemort wins and life is prooved to be as frickin' crappy as it always was. WHOOPTY f*cking DOO.

You wrote:

Of course, you don't know anything about the 7th book, so I'm not taking that seriously. But, if you throw out real spoilers, YOU ARE IP BANNED. Don't take my kindness as a weakness.

I could point out that ROWLING HERSELF said that so it's kind of hard to say "I" spoiled it. However, I will addmitt that this is still debated, though most people who are "in the know" seem to aggree that that is what will take place at the end of book 7. I guess YOU'LL JUST HAVE TO READ IT AND SEE. (DURRRRRRR....) This brings up another interesting point. Ive always found that knowing the out come to a book does not decrease its readability to me. It's all about the journey. Ask your self this: If you are so "enthrawled" by the books, when was the last time you whent back and READ THEM AGAIN? Did knowing the out come "ruin" the expiriance for if you did? I'm guessing it didn't. This is no different. SO WHAT you know how it all ends. It's all about how you get there that is the interesting part. Now if you have not re-read the books after you got them, then it proves my orriginal point. The books are a fad and have no staying power beyont the initial reading. That's fine in my oppinion, but dont make a friggin big deal out of something so overtly shallow.

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No, this asshole did NOT save those parents the money. They already bought the damn book! And he caused the parents the trouble of having to comfort the kids after he ruined a special event in their lives.

And you think he deserves a medal? I think that's a really f*cked up view, to be honest.

How would you feel if New Game XV came out, which you really wanted to play and experience, and some idiot like him came and told you the ending? Put yourself in their shoes before you go and say something like that.

See above.

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Those kids should be doing proper things such as playing videogames, or GASP! going out side, anyway.

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Oh, and this is the best part. Instead of reading, the children should be playing videogames. Great f*cking idea.

Ok, fine, if your kid wants to read about an abused kid that finds out they have "magical" powers, give em' a copy of "Matilda." It's better written anyway.

Fayorei · **Posted:** July 23rd, 2005, 5:01 pm

Staff, there is NO reason to be this volatile. If people wanna read Harry Potter, leave them the hell alone. Jesus, they're not making you read it. I dislike Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter, but I don't tell people to never read or see them. Criminy.

And you cracked on Goosebumps. I don't know what YOU read when you were 7-12, but I frikken loved Goosebump books. I have a whole shelf. I truly enjoyed my intense reading frenzy as a child with Babysitters Club, Goosebumps, the occasional Fear Street(those were for an older crowd), and the first Harry Potters. I ALSO went OUTSIDE almost everyday for hours on end, usually biking trails by my grandma's house with friends, or playing basketball and bikeriding over town with other friends from my home. Oh, and what else... mmm... I played SNES like crazy, I played my N64 and Playstation like crazy, and I beat Final Fantasy 6 and Lufia 2 when I was young. I believe that since I had writing and literature posed to me in the form of entertainment that I got myself into Accel English in 7th grade, and had it continue into 12th with the exeception that it was AP English in high school. Now, I can write kickass essays for college, get good marks, and my degree. Reading isn't useless, it doesn't matter what the content is. Whether it be book, video game, or a magazine.

I guess some people are too ignorant to see that. I chuckled when I saw "SOMETHING GUD LIEK VID GAMES"... yeah, that's what we need... something to encourage kids to sit on their asses MORE. :rolleyes

Ixzion · **Posted:** July 23rd, 2005, 5:05 pm

You're missing out on some soon-to-be literary classics.

Staffy · **Posted:** July 24th, 2005, 4:45 pm

I didnt read Hary potter originaly becaus I thought the concept was stupid. It's the Life altering OBSSESION with the books that some people have that I hate and find extreemly urksome. Especcialy when they are grown adults.

And i'm not raggin on them (goosebumps), i'm just saying that noone reads them ANYMORE. (en mass at least) They were big when they came out, don't get me wrong, but when was the last time you heard that R.L. Stine was dooing anything.

This is the same fate that I for see J.K. Rowling. She's famous now, but wait 10 years; I bet you'll see her sitting behind a desk in a bookstore some where and noone will stop to say "hi" or even accnowledge her. Then she will cry because she wont know where her fame went.

you know, I think i'll take back what I said about shooting her. Irony is far worse than what any gun could do. It's a much better way to make her pay for this drivvel shes hawking to kids.

These kids should read REAL fantasy novels first, like The Lord Of the Rings, or at the VERY least The Chronicles Of Narnia (which I hear they are making into movies. ^_^ This time ALL of the books. Friggin BBC crapping out....>_> *grumble* ...Voyage of the friggin dawn treader...*grumble*)

*Ahem*
These kids should at least read REAL fantasy novles first (such as the ones I mentioned and a few others) toput this sereis into the proper context.

Chrssy · **Posted:** July 24th, 2005, 6:02 pm

.f*ck a book is a f*cking book. stop ur b*tching staff, ur getting nowhere.

Staffy · **Posted:** July 24th, 2005, 10:46 pm

OMG, WHAT A STELLAR POINT OF VEIW! I NEVER LOOKED AT IT THAT WAY! HOW COULD I HAVE BEEN SO IGNORANT!!!?!??!?!1 IT'S SO GOOD I THINK I WILL FRAME IT, HANG IT ON MY WALL, AND EVERY TIME I WAKE UP I WILL PEER AT YOUR SAGE WISDOM AND LOOK BACK WITH UTTER CONFUSION AND DISBEILIF THAT I WAS ABLE TO LIVE WITH OUT YOUR GUIDING WORDS FOR 23 YEARS ALL BY MY SELF.

Btw, F U 2 chrissy.

F U 2.

Seriously, though, I cant very well reach through the computer and snatch the books from your hands, (as much as I'd like to) So all I'm saying is that for people your age it's pathetic that you'd be so taken buy this kid. Perhaps I can get the whole "he's high school age and so am I" thing, but that ends at 18. Most of you are out of high school.
In any event I cant stop you from reading it, only suggest strongly that you eather don't start, or if you have quit.

Harry Potter is like smoking in that way. Seems cool when you are young but then you grow up and realize how stupid it is. I knew it was stupid to begin with, so I never started. ^_^

Chrssy · **Posted:** July 24th, 2005, 11:07 pm

yea so is lord of the rings. and so will that other f*ckin sh*t U read staff thats comming out to movies. its all the same. same f*cking sh*t. u come on here and start ranting about a book that uve never read. WHY are u here in the first place. yea f*ck you to staff. sometimes keep ur mouth closed.grow the f*ck up.

Stythe · **Posted:** July 24th, 2005, 11:49 pm

Staff, you've never read it. Shut the f*ck up. your opinion has absolutely no merit at all.

Next time you try to argue something, at least be somewhat informed. Reading articles about the subject or reading other people's opinions and then forming your own doesn't count, by the way. Be informed DIRECTLY about the subject.

If you do this sh*t again, you will be temporarily banned.

ShadowFox1001 · **Posted:** July 25th, 2005, 12:30 am

It seems I'm not needed, but I'll post my bit anyway.

Staff, you can't groan and moan about something you have not ever cracked open. You cannot have an opinion or whatever about something you know nothing of. You only go off what you're told, not what you have read. Only a fool goes off someone else's word. Don't state stupid opinions and try and press it on others. I swear, you are ignorant.

Staffy · **Posted:** July 25th, 2005, 1:37 am

This post deleted by Reki! Have a nice day!

Staffmaster, you're not listening. You still haven't read the books. Anyone can write the occurences of a book in a way that makes it look kiddish and lame, especially if they're getting it from sources other than the book itself, because then it's pretty much already done for you. You seem to read a fair amount, so you should understand that it's how things are presented and described that matters.. not what happens in the lowest amount of detail possible.

Do not post in this thread again.

Fayorei · **Posted:** July 25th, 2005, 6:06 pm

Lone pwned pl0x?

Anyways, just to add... I don't think an 8 year old feels like reading something as huge as LOTR if they're having trouble with younger literature. :lol

Agentsix · **Posted:** July 25th, 2005, 6:52 pm

I'll just see the lord of the rings movie but not buy the book. Same goes for harry potter

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